Several subscribers to the blog had commented that the Veil G4 testing with the video was not a “real world” test as the car was at an excessive speed and they felt that the punch through distances would be reduced.
Several days prior to the test, the “Veil Guy” was at our testing complex and we performed baseline testing without Veil on the Shelby Mustang. The day of the test, we also did baseline testing with the white Toyota SUV aiming at the drivers side headlamp, prior to the application of the Veil G4 product.
We then performed a series of runs with both vehicles at more “reasonable” speeds (less then 45 mph). The following is a full report of our results;
| Black Shelby Mustang | ||
| Gun | Baseline | W/Veil |
| Stalker | 987′ | 167′ |
| Laser Atlanta | 1010′ | 183′ |
| LTI 100 LR | 876′ | 192′ |
| LTI-LR | 927′ | 157′ |
| Kustom ProLyte | 910′ | 172′ |
| White Toyota SUV | ||
| Stalker | 1300′ | 689′ |
| Laser Atlanta | 1276′ | 612′ |
| LTI 100 LR | 1198′ | 634′ |
| LTI-LR | 1296′ | 686′ |
| Kustom ProLyte | 1245′ | 709′ |
Admitting I should had included this information in the original post, but as I had a production deadline with the ZR4 video and cut some corners and omitted it and I apologize.
Also some other users had commented that they felt that the first tone heard during the ZR4 test was a “speed lock” that I missed. This was not a “speed lock but an E4 error message that was displayed on the gun.
I do appreciate everyones comments and suggestions.
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What about exceeding legal speeds is not “real world”?
I own all of these kinds of countermeasures to help protect me when I happen to be SPEEDING.
Its nice to see the Veil G4 work at those high speeds.
If I had to choose between having a countermeasure work better the FASTER I go versus the slower, I’d pick the former over the latter every day and twice on Sunday.
Wasn’t this the reason products like Veil and the ZR4 were created to begin with???
Just my .02 worth.
BTW, Jam from gun when pairing Veil G4 with a ZR4 rear mounted head? That is almost too good to believe!!!!!
Its great to see both CM and Veil stepping up their game! Congrats to both!
I cant wait for them to start shipping!
-J
Hell who needs a jammer with that car if they have Veil G4. That is $#$#$@#$# impressive great job Bob and Veil team
iS it really true that veil doesn’t cause e4 and j3 jam codes to appear on the lasers that can detect that they are being jammed? (like the stalker, laser tech, laser atlanta, riegl)
I sometimes have to drive through other countries where jammers are illegal (carry demerit points) and having something that does’t cause repeated e4 codes which is a dead giveaway to jammer is absolutely neccessary.
Is there an easy way to turn off the shifting function of the ZR4 after you slowed down and didn’t need or want the active protection?
If so, can the ZR-4 still alert to laser (like a detector) while not attempting to jam it?
Thanks in advance.
Veil is a “passive” coating so there will be no jamming codes received by the laser gun.
You could press the power button on the ZR3 shifter to power the unit off. Also the shifter is designed to jam after a threat is received.
can we see that same setup on the sequioa w a front tag?
[...] tearing it apart, both front and rear. Any solid data to back this up? From the data that I see here and here that is not the case. BTW-please note the difference a cars color makes in the test [...]
The Toyota was white (hardest color) and the Mustang was black (easiest color)
The data from the test(s) shows a significant reduction using Veil on both vehicles
A? I missing something here or did the color of the vehicle have a bigger impact than the use if veil?
Looks to me, if you drive a white vehicle you’re better off paying for a black paint job than buying veil, your results from this according to these test results will be significantly better.
“aiming at the drivers side headlamp”…
If you were aiming at only the headlight how did the color of the vehicle make any difference at all?
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Has there ever been a test using a Car Bra (frontal car cover black)against laser, inconjunction with veil or jammer
The US Cheetah Rep has a bra on his Toyota that is black and yes it is very effective.
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